What Size Battery Does The Advantax 4100 Camera Need
#1 
Posted 11 June 2022 - 08:36 AM
I have been bringing dwelling a TalentCell 4100 LiFePO4 battery overnight to run my GEM28, and earlier SLT. Even so, I at present accept the GEM28 which I guide some of the time, an 80cm dew strip, a 30cm dew strip, and the apartment panel I use for Flats running from the battery at various times and it's running out of juice in only about 3 hours.
I'm happy with the minor size and lite weight. I can get ane of my own as well, or something better.
What do y'all use?
Edited past SchoolMaster, 11 June 2022 - 08:36 AM.
#2
Posted 11 June 2022 - 08:42 AM
I use the Bresser powerbank: https://www.bresser....y-100-Watt.html
I've not measured information technology but I'd say it runs AzEQ6 mount for three-iv hours a night for three-4 nights before it needs a recharge, just I don't have dewstrips or annihilation other than the mountain to run.
It is super-light and doubles up as a laptop charger on trips.
I imagine at that place are cheaper options as this is promoted equally astro kit, but information technology does the task well
#3
Posted eleven June 2022 - 08:58 AM
I use the Bresser powerbank: https://www.bresser....y-100-Watt.html
I've non measured it only I'd say it runs AzEQ6 mountain for three-4 hours a night for three-4 nights before it needs a recharge, only I don't have dewstrips or anything other than the mount to run.
It is super-lite and doubles upwards as a laptop charger on trips.
I imagine there are cheaper options equally this is promoted as astro kit, only it does the job well
Thanks. That has over twice the capacity as mine. I can utilise that as a data point.
#4
Posted 11 June 2022 - 09:22 AM
Moving to Equipment for a potentially better fit.
#5
Posted xi June 2022 - 09:39 AM
I use 1 of these GOLABS 299Wh units (cheaper now than when I bought information technology almost a year agone). I'd recommend keeping the TalentCell and running the dew strips from it, then use this for everything else.
I run:
- Fully charged Windows Surface
- GEM38
- Dew Strip for the 8"
- mini-PC at the mount
- Travel Router
- ZWO camera
- ZWO EAF
I'll get 5-half dozen hours (more I last at outreach events), but the dew strips are the largest draw so moving those to the TalentCell will increase the total time.
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#half-dozen
Posted 11 June 2022 - 10:37 AM
I switched to a 12V 17A power supply a couple months ago to replace a 12V 18Ah bombardment. I don't run the laptop off the 12V organisation which would be three-4A an its own. Everything else runs off the the power supply and the typical load is iii-4A continuous. Doing the math on the 18Ah battery this is near 4-5 hours run time.
I'm not super happy with the 12V power supply considering the voltage is exactly 12.0 5 and can vary from 11.5 to 12V and would not recommend ownership ane even though information technology has worked fine for a couple months. I'd like to run into 12.5V minimum for a ability supply.
Dorsum to your original question about battery size, if you are pulling around 5A at 12V, but multiply 5 times the number of hours you want to run and pick that size of bombardment in Ah. If toll is an issue then the bombardment linked higher up is a good value and two of them in parallel is 36Ah or 7 hours at 5A draw.
#7
Posted 11 June 2022 - 10:56 AM
I use a Schumacher bound starter for my SkyWatcher EQ6-R Pro mountain. I simply ordered a M Oaks controller and 3 heating bands from Astronomics. I plan on trying the Schumacher for powering the mount and dew heaters. I'm really defective in the area of electronics so if whatever of yous run into a problem with my plans please speak upwardly!
Edited by tog, 11 June 2022 - ten:58 AM.
#8
Posted 11 June 2022 - 11:22 AM
I whorl my ain, buying LiFePO4 batteries and putting them in DeWalt tool boxes, mounting my own Anderson Powerpole, USB, and cigarette lighter plugs on top. Cheaper and more versatile for what I need it for. (Ane of my boxes has a 100Ah & a 30Ah battery in it. Can still haul it i-handed.
Paul
#9
Posted 12 June 2022 - 03:32 PM
If y'all do not need all the extras (AC power, USB power, congenital in solar accuse controller) a LiFePO4 battery is the most price constructive selection. I have several of the solar generators (Jackery and Bluetti) and they work dandy and are fantastic all-in-one solutions. Only, for maximum energy at minimum price I use a LiFePO4 battery from Ampere Time You lot can build your own box with the added features like Paul, or just add together some cables with Power Pole connectors on 1 cease and lug mounts on the other. I connect the battery output to my Pegasus Power Box for power distribution to everything and, if I desire to run my laptop using the bombardment, I claw an inverter to the bombardment with a 2nd cable. If y'all don't have a Power Box you can become a Rig runner every bit ability distribution hub http://www.westmount...m/rigrunner.php These are very well congenital, employ genuine Anderson Ability Poles, come up in different models and configurations and the fuses can be changed to each device'south needs. There are some cheaper Chinese knock-offs but they don't typically use Anderson Power Poles which I find are better than the knock-off "power poles".
If you want more detailed information on some of the equipment I mention here you can find some reviews in the blog section of my spider web site.
Regards,
Curtis
#10
Posted thirteen June 2022 - 10:06 AM
I detect myself constantly on the edge betwixt Frugal, and Inexpensive. I built myself a telescope dolley at the cost of nigh two hours labor and $75 of parts in addition to $.25 and pieces I had lying effectually. Now finished, it is likely to stay that way. I enjoyed the process and the resulting product is proficient and reliable plenty. This is a reasonable choice for a $350 item.
I have the skills to build a bombardment pack, but soldering, testing and possible future reliability considerations, plus the hours of labor and testing would seem to exceed any saving in price for a $100 item.
Which is a long way of saying that I'd by and large prefer a 'bought' item. Paying more than to exist able to run my laptop as well is a skillful idea, as is separate systems for the dew heaters, which are not always needed. My evening sessions in Florida are generally proficient, morn, not so much!
Edited by SchoolMaster, 13 June 2022 - x:07 AM.
#11
Posted xiii June 2022 - x:46 AM
If yous are comfy wire stripping and crimping and doing some bones wiring you lot can put together a 50 Ah lead acid bombardment setup for 1/2 the toll of a LiFePO4 setup.
$30 for APP Crimper
$100-150 for 50 Ah AGM (atomic number 82-acrid)
$200-300 for 50 Ah LiFePO4
$threescore for 8-pole DC power distribution box
I like this wire because information technology's very flexible and 14ga is practiced for most circuits except the main which should be 10ga.
Assuming your laptop volition pull three-4A from a 12V source and the rest of your gear is pulling 5A, yous are at say 10A maximum which would exist five hours run fourth dimension. I would also recommend calculation a DC voltmeter so you tin run across when your nether load voltage drops to 11.8V which is when yous need to shut downwardly and recharge the AGM battery.
About of the packaged systems have a battery that is much smaller than l Ah. I think you will have fun putting a power distribution setup together. With the crimping tool information technology'south clean and easy.
#12
Posted 13 June 2022 - x:56 AM
If you are comfortable wire stripping and crimping and doing some basic wiring you can put together a 50 Ah atomic number 82 acid battery setup for ane/ii the cost of a LiFePO4 setup.
$xxx for APP Crimper
$100-150 for 50 Ah AGM (lead-acrid)
$200-300 for 50 Ah LiFePO4
$60 for 8-pole DC power distribution box
I similar this wire because it'southward very flexible and 14ga is proficient for most circuits except the chief which should be 10ga.
Bold your laptop volition pull 3-4A from a 12V source and the rest of your gear is pulling 5A, you are at say 10A maximum which would be 5 hours run fourth dimension. I would too recommend adding a DC voltmeter so you tin see when your under load voltage drops to 11.8V which is when you need to shut down and recharge the AGM battery.
Most of the packaged systems take a battery that is much smaller than 50 Ah. I retrieve you will accept fun putting a ability distribution setup together. With the crimping tool it's make clean and easy.
I build and modify computers from scratch. I have nearly all the tools I could always want 
I besides have a couple of old battery-backup UPS lying around.
Price vs convenience, and weight and volume, is always a consideration.
#13
Posted 13 June 2022 - 12:11 PM
I build and alter computers from scratch. I accept virtually all the tools I could ever want
Cost vs convenience, and weight and volume, is ever a consideration.
The moderate sized battery UPS units usually have two 8- or 9-AH SLA battery bricks inside. Every few years they demand to go replaced, but I observe that it's ordinarily only i of the two batteries that gets cooked. The other is fine.
When it comes time to supercede the batteries, get 2 new ones, but only recycle the bad i. Put the other to apply for your telescope (or whatever). I congenital a pack of iii (wired in parallel) that I use to augment the original 7AH Celestron PowerTank, hooking them to the 2 ability terminals at the back. That gives plenty of power to run the scope and all its attachments for a number of hours. Yous volition need a proper charger, not the wall wart that Celestron provides.
Note: ONLY do this if you have the same type batteries! SLA to SLA; don't mix with Lithium!
#14
Posted 13 June 2022 - 03:48 PM
I employ ane of these GOLABS 299Wh units (cheaper now than when I bought it most a yr ago). I'd recommend keeping the TalentCell and running the dew strips from it, and so use this for everything else.
I run:
- Fully charged Windows Surface
- GEM38
- Dew Strip for the viii"
- mini-PC at the mount
- Travel Router
- ZWO camera
- ZWO EAF
I'll get 5-half dozen hours (more I last at outreach events), but the dew strips are the largest draw and so moving those to the TalentCell will increase the total time.
+one for the GoLabs.
I have both the 299 and the R500
To date, the 299 has ran;
-Mountain
-cooled cam (2600mc)
-Air Plus
-EAF
-two dew heaters ran through AAP (although these do cut down the time quite a fleck when in use)
all for most 6-viii hours with no worries.
I picked up the R500 for the winter and multi-employ projects.
Edited past Skysmacker, 13 June 2022 - 03:50 PM.
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#xv
Posted 13 June 2022 - 04:19 PM
Before I spend even more than, no real problem, but I like my extravagance to be effective, I'll bring habitation a second TalentCell and use it just for the dew strip and see how that works, and bookmark GOLABS.
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#sixteen
Posted 13 June 2022 - 05:02 PM
If you are comfortable wire stripping and crimping and doing some bones wiring you tin put together a l Ah lead acid battery setup for 1/two the cost of a LiFePO4 setup.
$100-150 for 50 Ah AGM (atomic number 82-acid)
$200-300 for 50 Ah LiFePO4
Certainly not true. The 50Ah AGM will provide 25Ah of current while the 50Ah LiFePO4 will provide 50Ah of current. When measured past the truthful cost, $/Ah, lead acid is no longer cheaper than lithium. Then there is the 4K plus full belch cycles for the LiFePO4 vs 450 - 600 half discharge cycles of the lead acid. And the 10 year life of the LiFePO4 vs iv-six years for the AGM.
I'yard non sure why this is not clear at this point in time. I mean no personal offense to anyone who prefers a pb acid battery, just the reality is what it is.
Regards,
Curtis
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#17
Posted thirteen June 2022 - 06:25 PM
Certainly not true. The 50Ah AGM will provide 25Ah of electric current while the 50Ah LiFePO4 volition provide 50Ah of current. When measured past the true cost, $/Ah, pb acid is no longer cheaper than lithium. And then in that location is the 4K plus full discharge cycles for the LiFePO4 vs 450 - 600 half discharge cycles of the lead acid. And the 10 year life of the LiFePO4 vs 4-half-dozen years for the AGM.
I'm non sure why this is not articulate at this point in time. I mean no personal offense to anyone who prefers a pb acid battery, but the reality is what information technology is.
Regards,
Curtis
None taken and all points appreciated. I've been using AGMs for twenty+ years in my boats and I'one thousand quite familiar with how they operate. I've been using two 18Ah AGMs for my scope rigs for three years with null problems. Like whatever equipment, if you know how to utilize it, things usually go equally planned.
At 63, I won't live long enough to utilize any boat or scope battery for 4,000 charge cycles, and will hit the blueprint life long before using the charge cycles. I might equally well take some tomato cages custom built out of 316SS or titanium so they'll last 100 years.
I exercise capeesh your enthusiasm for the LiFePO4 bombardment. 
#xviii
Posted 13 June 2022 - 09:19 PM
MarMax -Glad no offense taken. I've got you beat out at 68, merely my father's side seems to make information technology well into their 90s and so maybe I will be around long enough to get my 4000 cycles.
Treating whatsoever bombardment, no affair the chemical science, correctly volition ensure longevity.
Best Regards,
Curtis
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#19
Posted Yesterday, 08:51 AM
I am looking at the GOLAB i1200.
Any reviews on this bombardment?
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